Sunday, February 07, 2010

Thinking about inclusion: Opinion

1.If your child had a disability, would you prefer a general education or special education setting?
2.If your child did not have a disability, which class would you prefer?

74 comments:

Alicia said...

1.If your child had a disability, would you prefer a general education or special education setting?
2.If your child did not have a disability, which class would you prefer?

Oh boy. The first to post. Joy. OK, so question numero uno. I'm assuming with the information that I have so far of how a general education setting is run and the schooling that I have had myself that I would want my child to be placed there. Why not. I think that if they needed special attention with minor adjustments made to their day to day life, then being in an environment with general education students would not only benefit them, but their peers as well. Being put into a class with a student with a disability of any sort allows for you to learn about the disability as well as the person. Their lifestyle, their personality, how their education is hindered, and so on. Call me naive but I would hope that in putting my child in a general education environment that they would have a normal experience, or as close to it as possible and who doesn't want that for their child. I guess in my answering of the first question I have kind of answered the second as well. I would want my child to be in an environment where they can learn about their peers be it they have a disability or not. They are still peers aren't they? And (this may come out bad but I have been contemplating how to make this sound better for the last 5 minutes and it's just not happening) it will also help for my children to feel comfortable around those who have disabilities in the future. O.K. - pulling from personal experience - my brother in law is an aspiring physical education teacher. Sure he seems like a normal guy to the general public but...he is (for lack of better terminology) petrified of people in wheel chairs. His brain is wired in a way that all people in wheel chairs also must have mental retardation. Ask where he got this from? I have no idea. But it is a living example of someone who was never exposed to it as a child, or really in his life much at all, and he has created this uncomfortable universe and environment for himself. I am painting him to be a very uneducated and narrow-minded guy and he really is not, but in order to get my point across I felt the need to use him as an example. Do we agree?

Unknown said...

Way to be brave Alicia... thanks for being first. You have set the table for a great deal of discussion. I hope others see that as well.

Gina said...

After reading Alicia's comments I would have to say that I agree with her. However, my reason comes from personal experience. Although my daughter doesn't have any disabilities she has been placed in an inclusion classroom twice in her schooling years. In both 3rd and 4th grade, she is now in 6th grade. Also, she was in two different school districts for the 3rd and 4th grade, after 3rd grade we moved. I must admit that I had reservations about her being in an inclusion classroom when I first learned about it. I was concerned that her education would be hindered. The class would run "slower" and she would not get a complete and thorough education. My husband, who is a teacher, was not concerned. He was right, I was wrong. She had an excellent school year, both times. In both situations she had two teachers in the classroom. However in 3rd grade she knew who the student was with the disability/special needs. The student always had extra help, attention and was pulled from the classroom for resource help. In 4th grade she did not know who the child was with the special needs. She said the teachers helped everyone the same. That being said if any of my children had a disability I would want them in an inclusion classroom. As Alicia said, I would want them to be in a "normal" general education setting.

tania said...

In reading both Alicia's and Gina's comments I agree with many of their ideas. The initial concerns Gina had with having her child in an inclusion classroom even though her daughter did not have any disabilities was a concern I have had myself as well. My entire educational experience from grammar school to high school there was no inclusion classrooms. All the students who had disabilities were in the special education classrooms and students who needed additional help in mainstream classes went to remedial classes during the day. In high school, it worked the same way. Even now that I am student teaching, the classrooms that I am working with are not inclusion. I am not saying I am against it or would not want to have my child in one of these classrooms, I just have not seen an inclusive classroom.
Like both Gina and Alicia mentioned, if I had a child with a disability I would love for them to have a normal educational experience as well as receive the best education as possible. I feel as though if my child was in an inclusive classroom, receiving special one-on-one attention as needed and given extra time, that this could also cause my child to be "singled-out" and be known as the student that has a disability and cause more unwanted attention due to their disability. I know students in high school are at the age where they will tease you for any reason and I do have a concern that children in inclusive classrooms may have to deal with that more so than if they were in a special education setting. That being said, if there is a school and a community where the students and teachers can make it work (and i'm sure there is) I am all for it!!! These were just some of the thoughts I had when thinking about these questions.

I also just want to mention that in the video we watched in class, the comment that really struck my attention was the first time teacher in the inclusion classroom. She said something to the line of "how am I going to reach the valedictorian of the class as well as those with disabilities?" That is the same concern I have as a parent with a student with a disability or without a disability.

RYAN said...

I agree with you all. i wouldn't want my child, able or disabled to feel like he/she was missing out on a "normal" education experience. Alicia brings up a good point about peers. --"I would want my child to be in an environment where they can learn about their peers be it they have a disability or not. They are still peers aren't they?"-- When it comes to children (and teachers) who may be uncomfortable or unfamiliar with disabled children, I think a good way to get them accustomed is by having disabled kids in the general ed. setting. The interactions and socializing with other children (able and disabled) is crucial for child development and growth.
I don't see anything bad or wrong about taking more time on tests, or being in a wheelchair, or going to resource room ,instead of lunch. Some of my best friends in high school had schedules like that. I had the regular, same old schedule. My friends were often in my classes and there sometimes would be an aid or assistant or another teacher, but it was normal for us. And the strange thing is, I had a better GPA, but they did way better on the SAT's. hmm.... I don't know??

Anyways I would prefer a general education setting for my able and disabled children.

Amanda said...

Depending on the severity of my child's disability, I would opt for the general education setting. As a parent, I would also want my child to have as "normal" an educational experience as possible, however, not all teachers who have inclusion classrooms are trained in special education. The elementary school my aunt teaches at and I observed last year, have inclusion classes, but she is the only special education teacher. If someone is not trained how to deal with my child, why would I want him/her in the classroom?
For a child without disabilities, I would have no hesitation having them in an inclusion classroom. Its natural to fear what we do not know, that's why people reject a lot of lifestyles, ideas, religions, etc, but by exposing your child to those with disabilities, they will not be afraid when confronted with them later.

Unknown said...

I agree with Amanda, as the severity of my child's disability would be a large factor in my prefered academic setting. If able I would prefer a general education setting. A major factor in this decision would be the training and ability of the teachers to provide my child with the educational support that he needs.

If my child did not have a disability i would prefer him to be in an inclusion classroom, At least through middle school. I admit I do have some reservations about an inclusion classroom, especially when dealing with higher level courses. Throughout middle and high school I was in all the honors and advanced placement courses. Thinking about those years, I think i would have been at a disadvantage if I were in an inclusion class. I was easily able to learn and understand the information presented to me. I guess i'm lucky in that respect but the point is that I feel I would have been distracted by slower students and extra teachers in the room and learning would have been more difficult.
I think that inclusion is very important, especially while students are young, in order to experiance and practise tolerance of differences, and other social constructs that seem to be lacking in this day and age. I learned these lessons in my elementary school and middle school where I interacted with children with various disabilities.

megaloo said...

1. Depending upon the disability, I think I would like the child to try inclusion as much as possible. If they needed separate instruction, then that could be included in their education. But I believe inclusion plays a large role not only in a child's general education, but in socialization skills as well. Provided that my child's disability did not hinder the way the class was run, I would try inclusion.

2. I would still go for inclusion in this option. I had classes with inclusion students from junior high through high school and it was never an issue. One boy in particular was in most of the English classes I took, although there were days he must have gone to the resource room to take exams. He communicated in discussions with the help of a personal aid and a keyboard. The boy was very bright and always had something worthwhile to add-- in fact, I think he wasn't in more of my classes because I believe he took the smarter math and science courses.

Children without learning disabilities learn just as much from those who do have them. Tolerance, patience, open-mindedness; all valuable life lessons in addition to the content taught in the class.

megaloo said...

...aaand that last comment was from Meghan. Just so that's clear.

Unknown said...

If my child had a disability I would prefer that he/she at least attempted to attend general education classes at the onset of his/her learning. From there, as a family along with the faculty’s advisement, we could decide what would be best for the child based on his/her success in the program. Another factor to consider would be the child’s social growth at school as much as his/her grades. If my child was ostracized or received preferential treatment from his peers in regular classes, then I would be more incline to put him/her in a special education class where he/she would presumably receive equal treatment.

If my child did not have a disability I would prefer that he/she attended classes with disabled children. Although the message that disabled children can overcome their challenges and become thriving members of society is amply available in society and entertainment (“Forrest Gump”, “My Left Foot”), having fellow students with disabilities functioning in and contributing to a classroom would greatly reinforce that message. Having classes with disabled children would display that they are just as capable to be successful in society. Going to school with disabled children would prepare my child to work with disabled citizens when they join the workforce.

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